The Democratic National Convention in Chicago was truly historic, with the first woman of color nominated for president by a major party infusing a sense of joy, unity, and purpose into the 2024 campaign. The enthusiasm, excitement, and energy radiated from the arena outward across the country.
The light of hope for the future beamed brightly in contrast to the doom and gloom from the Mordor of the Republican convention.
As Pete Buttigieg put it, "Darkness is what they are selling. The thing is, I just don't believe that American today is in the market for darkness."
Damn straight. The darkness of Trumpism must, and will be, repudiated
Here are some of my other favorite remarks from this week's DNC:
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Stephanie
Grisham, the former Trump press secretary who quit her White House job on Jan. 6 said
“Trump has no empathy, no morals and no fidelity to the truth.”
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Michelle
Obama asked the crowd, “Who’s going to tell him that the job he’s currently
seeking might just be one of those ‘Black jobs’?”
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Former
President Bill Clinton on turning 78: "The only personal vanity that I
want to assert is that I'm still younger than Donald Trump."
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Vice
Presidential nominee Tim Walz: “Never underestimate public school teachers.”
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D.L. Hughley: "Trump is saying Kamala isn't Black. I guarantee you this. Kamala's been Black a lot longer than Trump has been a Republican. Trump will finally know what's it's like to be left for a younger woman."
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Georgia’s former Republican Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan:
“I can spend my time revving up this crowd but I’m certain I don’t have to talk anybody out of voting for Donald Trump here. So I’m going to focus my attention on the millions of Republicans and independents at home that are sick and tired of making excuses for Donald Trump.
If Republicans are being intellectually honest with ourselves, our party is not civil or conservative. It’s chaotic and crazy. These days our party acts more like a cult, a cult worshiping a felonious thug. And the only thing left to do is dump Trump.”
Let
me be clear to my Republican friends at home: If you vote for Kamala Harris
in 2024 you’re not a Democrat, you’re a patriot.”
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The "woman from Michigan" Governor Gretchen Whitmer: "Donald Trump doesn't know you — at all. You
think he understands that when your car breaks down, you can't get to work? No!
His first word was probably chauffeur. You think he's ever had to take items
out of the cart before checking out? Hell, you think he's ever been to a
grocery store? That's what the chauffeur is for!"
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Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger:
“The
Republican Party is no longer conservative. It has switched its allegiance from
the principles that gave it purpose to a man who’s only purpose is himself.
Donald Trump is a weak man pretending to be strong. He is a small man
pretending to be big. He’s a faithless man pretending to be righteous. He’s a
perpetrator who can’t stop playing the victim.”
Vice President Kamala Harris:
“In many ways, Donald Trump is an unserious man, but the consequences of putting Donald Trump back in the White House are extremely serious.
Donald Trump tried to throw away your votes. When he failed, he sent an armed mob to the United States Capitol where they assaulted law enforcement officers. When politicians in his own party begged him to call off the mob and send help, he did the opposite. He fanned the flames.
Consider what he intends to do if we give him power again. Consider his explicit intent to set free violent extremists who assaulted those law enforcement officers at the Capitol. His explicit intent to jail journalists, political opponents and anyone he sees as the enemy. His explicit intent to deploy our active-duty military against our own citizens.
Consider the power he will have – especially after the United States Supreme Court just ruled that he would be immune from criminal prosecution. Just imagine Donald Trump with no guardrails.
I believe America cannot truly be prosperous unless Americans are fully able to make their own decisions about their own lives. Especially on matters of heart and home.
But tonight, in America, too many women are not able to make those decisions. And let’s be clear about how we got here. Donald Trump hand-picked members of the United States Supreme Court to take away reproductive freedom. And now he brags about it.
I refuse to play politics with our security. And here is my pledge to you: As president, I will bring back the bipartisan border security bill that he killed and I will sign it into law. I know we can live up to our proud heritage as a nation of immigrants and reform our broken immigration system. We can create an earned pathway to citizenship and secure our border.”
“When
we fight, we win!”
And from the “weak man pretending to be strong, a small man pretending to be big, a faithless man pretending to be righteous, and a perpetrator who can’t stop playing the victim”:
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“IS SHE TALKING ABOUT ME? LYING AGAIN ABOUT PROJECT 2025, WHICH SHE KNOWS, AND SO DO ALL DEMOCRATS, THAT I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH!”
(At
a Heritage dinner in 2022 Trump said, "This is a great group, and they’re
going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will
do.")
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And
finally, from everyone else: “We’re not going back!”
64 comments:
Who do you keep trying to convince? Yourself
Anonymous,
Such remarkable insight. What did it take to convince yourself of this?
its very Interesting you make no comment about the phony nominated vice presidential allowing tampons into boys bathrooms, or the democrats approval of kids getting a sex change operation, white privilege, democrats claiming the economy is booming when the cost of living is astronomical under Biden's administration .
Ssl,
It's very interesting you think I should air your resentments and misinformation in a post titled "DNC Remarks".
What's interesting to me is that anymouse and Ssl actually believe that anybody with a mind connected to reality gives a crap what they think.
They've marinated in Trumpism so long their own minds have been reduced to mush and muddle.
Les,
"Think" is a generous term for their cult-like BELIEF that every word from their malevolent mendacious messiah is gospel. This is due to their willful gullibility and intellectual laziness. Thinking calls for rational examination of verifiable evidence. They have no use for that whatsoever when they surrender their mind and conscience to Trump. ANYTHING that makes them FEEEEL good in their hate, anger, and playing the "victim" becomes real in their fevered cult brains.
My comments are more interesting, and MUCH MORE TRUTHFUL then yours
Anonymous suggests we have Trump executed: "Organized election theft must be a capital crime."
Sal,
You are a classic example of the Dunning/Kruger effect. You are a parrot, incapable of seeking evidence to support your remarks, but you THINK you actually know more than others.
Inflation has been falling for months. Nobody is forced to put tampons in boys restrooms. They are for menstruating students. Get real, sport.
Sex changes for kids is NOT in the Democratic platform.
https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-did-walz-force-minnesota-schools-to-stock-tampons-in-boys-bathrooms/21584434/
YOUR party is causing women to have miscarriages in parking lots because doctors are afraid to give them the treatment they need. YOUR party forces a 10 year-old girl to bear the offspring of her RAPIST.
Why can't you maniacs MIND YOU OWN DAMN BUSINESS??
Tampon Timi's the perfect choice for Kommie Kammie . Together they’ll crash the party and run the entire party into the ground, while we watch them with amusement as they self destruct in front of the whole wide world.. it’s going to be more amusement than Joe Biden was trying to walk UP the stairs to an Airplane.
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MMM,
Trump is terrified of Kamala. Justice awaits him if she wins. He keeps babbling incoherently, just like you. When you have no facts or reason to support your opinion, name calling like an adolescent is all you have left.
I alway thought that you were STUPID, and now I’m sure that you are. Perhaps that Rats Nest you hang around in is contagious
MMM,
You "alway thought"? LOL!!! That's a good one!
So your response to my statement that instead of making a point with facts and reason you resort to teenage name-calling is to double down on your hateful ignorance.
You're incapable of saying, "Dave, you're mistaken by saying_____. The facts are____." This is beyond your mental abilities.
Rational thinking must hurt your underdeveloped, frightened little brain, so name calling is all you have.
Well done. You've show us your best effort.
Imagine being so STUPID you call others stupid but are too stupid to support your accusation with a single supporting example. This is the MAGA cult, where willfully ignorant, stupid, hateful, and racist assholes always have a home.
Thanks for proving my point.
Dave, your trolls are weak, uneducated and unable to make a cogent argument with facts. Seriously, have you read their writing? I'm sure Tim or Gwen Walz could teach them a thing or two about basic English, grammar and composition.
But what do I know? Clearly they slept through those subjects in high school.
As to your post... one nit. Hillary Clinton was the first woman nominated to the presidency of the US by a major party. Harris is the first black woman nominated. And I'm sure Shirley Chisholm is smiling today from heaven.
As for our new found GOP friends who will be voting for Kamala, I'd like to challenge our MAGA lovers here to answer a question. I know they can't stand folks like Cheney, Kinzinger and other "turncoat" Republicans. I get it. But can any of you guys [Sal, MAGA Man, Frank et al] give me a couple of specific policies the RINOs support with which you disagree?
Policies please, not candidates, but policies.
Because some of these people you hate voted with Trump at a clip above 90-95% when he was in office.
So again, policies. I mean, if you can.
Dave,
Thanks for catching my mistake. Unlike our MAGA cultists, you actually READ this stuff. Of course, I meant woman of color, and corrected it.
We're not surprised at their ignorance and inability to process information not spoon-fed to them by Trump and his propagandists.
I even try to make it easier for them with a simple format:
"Dave, you're mistaken by saying_____. The facts are____."
No takers. No thinking. No ideas. No polices. No understanding. And no knowledge. Just the unholy gospel of Donald Trump.
I guess that's what it takes to be a "real American" in their cult.
Waiting for both my Harris/Walz bumper sticker and my camo baseball cap. Can't wait to walk around here in South Carolina driving and wearing my cap in public places.
Commander,
Thank you for your courage in representing the cause in SC. The reactions to the hat should be interesting. Apparently the Trumpists think we're "stealing their camo". Of course they FEEL the same about OUR flag. Talk about a self-righteous sense of entitlement.
They have lost their claim on patriotism, and the border as well, since their malevolent mendacious messiah demanded the border bill be killed.
Please report on the reactions you get to the hat.
Bless you my brother in SC!
Forward is the path, and, we're not going back!
Dump Trump on the junk heap of HISTORY... HARRIS/WALZ 2024
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Robert Kennedy Jr'. will no longer be provided Secret Service protection.
And neither Biden or Kamala Harris are not even trying to hide weaponizing their government anymore.
Since RFK Jr. partnered up with Donald Trump these two Loony Tones, pulled a CHEAP TRICK and decide that the Protection for RFK Jr. , his family, and even his supporters no longer matters.
If any violence occurs over the next few months at RFK’s rallies, meaning that if anything bad should happen to RFK, the blood will be on BOTH Biden and Harris' hands.
Americans deserve better.
Breaking: Just How Petty Can This Bunch Get?
Robert Kennedy Jr'. will no longer be provided Secret Service protection.
And neither Biden or Kamala Harris are not even trying to hide weaponizing their government anymore.
Since RFK Jr. partnered up with Donald Trump these two Loony Tones, pulled a CHEAP TRICK and decide that the Protection for RFK Jr. , his family, and even his supporters no longer matters.
If any violence occurs over the next few months at RFK’s rallies, meaning that if anything bad should happen to RFK, the blood will be on BOTH Biden and Harris' hands.
Americans deserve better.
Maga Man and Opinionated,
Are you so needy for attention you need to double post with two IDs?
Your fevered brain is so full of delusions and paranoia that you BELEIVE without EVIDENCE that Biden and Harris personally denied Secret Service protection. Are "both" of you too ignorant to understand Secret Service protections are for presidential and VP CANDIDATES, not sniveling toadies?
From the Secret Service website:
https://www.secretservice.gov/protection
Our Protective Mission
We play a critical role in protecting U.S. and visiting world leaders, safeguarding U.S. elections through protection of candidates and nominees, and ensuring the security of key facilities and major, national-level events.
I highly doubt this will penetrate through your thick skull and closed mind.
You FAIL to cite any evidence of "weaponized" government. Trump is charged with CRIMES that the EVIDENCE supports. But you're too intellectually LAZY to even READ the INDICTMENTS.
What is wrong with you people? Why do you embrace ignorance and hate?
Since your brains are incapable of examining your mindless BELIEFS, you'll never know anything that isn't fed to you by Trump and his propagandists. "Big Daddy" does your thinking FOR you.
You are INCAPABLE of processing facts, of critical thinking, and of forming rational ideas. All you do is BELIEVE, and REGURGITATE, like a cult.
There's no reason for me to publish any more of your ignorance, hate, nonsense, and dishonesty.
If you "think" I got something wrong, please set me straight.
Here's how you can do that:
"Dave, you're mistaken by saying " _______".
I cite "_______ " and "______" as verifiable information that clearly contradicts your point."
But not ONE Trumpist has been remotely CAPABLE of setting me straight with facts. They can only respond with whining, lies, hate, and regurgitated BS.
Why is that? You surrendered your mind and conscience to Trump.
Every unholy word from the convicted criminal, serial sex offender, adjudicated fraudster, and pathological liar Trump is YOUR GOSPEL. You are a true believer in his cult.
Feel free to show facts that disprove my assessment.
Intelligent, honest, forthright folks can attempt to educate, enlighten, whatever all day long. It will have zero effect on those with ignorant and deluded minds that listen ONLY to their reified beliefs and the uttering, or better stated, babbling of their Lying Odious Orange Menance.
Folks like TMM and OaR are but fossils of the distant past trying to kick start authoritarianism and loss of personal liberties in America.
But, We're not going back!
"Opinionated and Right
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Robert Kennedy Jr'. will no longer be provided Secret Service protection."
RFK, Jr., is a private citizen who suspended his campaign for the presidency and was polling at a mere 3%. He has no right to SS protection. Also, RFK,Jr.'s, own siblings and Kennedy cousins DO NOT support him or his ideas. Only MAGA support the guy who admitted he had a worm eat part of his brain! And like Trump, RFK,Jr., is a serial adulterer who kept a diary of all the women he shagged while he was married.
Those may be the values YOU admire in a politician, but they're not ours.
Les and Anonymous @11:57,
The MAGA cult is made up of largely two types, the simple-minded semi-literate dupe and the authoritarian/racist personality.
But while their minds are primitive fossils, they are not. Authoritarians and bullies have always plagued mankind, and always will, if we can't evolve past their fearful over-active amygdalas.
Humans are a heard species, whose independent thinking has been generally less a priority than following leaders. Safety in numbers, security in a group/tribe, fear of the unknown and others, and a sense of belonging too often override truth and the pursuit of reason.
Humans are social beings and prefer company rather than being solitary beings. For the most part.
However, solitude, being alone with oneself is really the best way one can really learn to truly know, accept, and embrace oneself w/o judgement. That's been my experience anyway.
Study (philosophical, psychology, and or spiritual material), meditation, and contemplation are excellent practices to acheive clarity, arrive at profound truths, increase happiness, serenity, understanding, gain many healthful benefits, and maybe, one day, enlightenment. If, one is committed and disciplined enough to engage in self growth and greater self realization and stay with it.
Having said the above, I bet there are not many MAGAverse folks who would even consider the above. Their self, as well as world view, and reified ego beliefs keep them suffering their ignorance and delusions.
Les,
It's true, we are social beings. This tends to form a groupthink mentality in respective groups of people. Most of us can't find serenity in solitude, nor are we inclined towards introspection. We want entertainment. This largely includes sports, religion, and TV, but booze and drugs can also serve as entertainment. Thus only the immediate company and surroundings have relevance. This is only getting worse. Social media and empty calorie entertainment leaves little time for learning and life/social experiences.
And Trump KNOWS he is an entertainer, and he's very good at it. He captivates the poorly educated and people without intellectual and social grounding.
That is PRECISELY why it is up to EACH individual to seek and find their own inner peace and serenity.
There are many many ways and paths leading to this but it must be found by searching/seeking.
Our culture and society in general work very hard keeping us distracted and focused on the external material world. This is because it SERVES their purpose rather than what is real AND important.
Les,
Yes, let's not forget the distractions and manipulations inherent in TV and radio from corporate propagandists on Madison Ave. Their message is essentially, "You cannot be happy and fulfilled unless you BUY our products".
Yup, and we, like mesmerized sheep follow them into suffering and confusion.
Apparently Kamala believes she will fix the mess that Joe Biden and she created .
After 3 1/3 years of creating this mess, they are still trying to blame Trump.
Sorry But that’s not going to work.
Squirrel Lady,
Thank you for your comment.
We can't read your mind, but CAN understand you are bitter and angry. (Two of MAGA's all-time favorite resentments.)
Apparently you have no need for citing specific information about what you BELIEVE to be a "mess".
What are Harris and Biden blaming on Trump for causing? We know they blame Trump for inciting mob violence in his attempt to steal the election that he LOST, by by ALL counts, recounts, certifications, audits, Trump’s DOJ & Homeland Security, and 60 courts.
They blame Trump for appointing sycophantic theocratic red hats to the Supreme Court who terminated women's right to reproductive freedom.
(Biden and Harris never took rights away from anyone.)
Maybe you are blaming Biden and Harris for post-pandemic GLOBAL inflation. There's no evidence they caused it, but there is evidence of the US economy rebounding faster than any other country affected by pandemic related supply shortages and inflation.
Also there is evidence of corporate price gouging that contributes to inflation. Mega grocery corporation Kroger has admitted they raised prices that EXCEEDED the inflation rate.
Maybe you are blaming Biden and Harris for the border mess? The reality is Biden and Harris both supported the bipartisan border bill that would have provided more agents, immigration courts, and fentanyl detectors at the border. Trump BRAGGED about ordering his minions to KILL the bill.
This makes Trump entirely to blame for the border mess today.
I'll tell you what's not going to work. The inane mindless blaming without supporting evidence. If you want to present a reasonable case, you need to provide verifiable evidence and rational examination of FACTS.
MAGA is utterly incapable of this, because they are ruled by triggered EMOTIONS. They excel in endless lies, complaints, whining, blaming, resentments, false accusations, name calling, and deflections.
As always, I welcome any correction to my information or reasonable refutation of my points. I even offer a format for those who don't know how to do so:
"Dave, you are mistaken by claiming ______ and _____. These verifiable facts______ and _______ indicate your error in reasoning or reported information."
You're welcome.
Dave, I find it incredible that so many ppl in our country are not aware of the duties of the VP. All that person gets to do is wait. That's literally their only job. Wait around in case the prez dies or is killed.
Yet I keep hearing from clowns like the Squirrel Nut and others about the "Harris Economy" her policies, and all the stuff Harris did the last 3 1/3 years.
If pressed, Squirrel, Vance and not a one of them, will find anything she did that wasn't apart from essentially supporting the work of our, hers too, president.
That's why the job was called a warm bucket of spit by John Nance Garner.
Dave,
To quote Reagan, "There you go again", stating facts. The Trump Cult has no use for facts. All they are interested in is resentment and blame, with anger and hate on the side. They are more emotional creatures than sentient beings. Such is the authoritarian personality.
Not ONE of them has been interested, or able, to use my simple form to dispute what I say. The term "verifiable facts" seems to scare them away.
They are twisting their minds into a neurological tangle of panic and confusion trying to find ways to attack, blame, and demonize a woman of color.
I am absolutely enjoying their fuming discomfort.
Long ago my father told me, "There's nothing wrong with ignorance. It can be cured with curiosity. But there is no cure for being proud of one's ignorance."
Dave, I'm not so sure they're purposefully ignorant. They know what's happening. They just don't care. They want the chaos. Their view, prominent among many is that government is out of control and has too much power. I'm sympathetic to that. Work around construction for a couple of years and you learn about those who can, becoming contractors and business owners and those who can't, becoming inspectors reveling many times, in their power to stall a project.
Over a a misplaced stud or only 19% of the budget being spent on ADA.
But the solution isn't, as Silverfiddle used to suggest or -FJ does, to burn it all down and start over. That's a disaster. But they don't play well with others.
Here's the best example I have... the great majority, over 70% of Americans, want some restrictions on abortion late in the term. But while a Dem can get elected with that view, the right to life people do not think that is reasonable and so they force a guy like Trump, who WAS trying to thread the needle on that issue, to equivocate, or risk losing.
There seem to be more single issue, I'm never negotiating with you ppl folks in the GOP.
So how do we reform the system if some are hell bent on destruction as a solution?
It's nuts.
Times are changing. Views are of course changing with the everflowing stream of changing times.
As much as humans resist changes that they find uncomfortable, or threatens their beliefs and habits, change nonetheless IS the only constant.
We reform the system when and if people wake up to the degree they they realize compromise is required and compassion is a must.
Otherwise enjoy the chaos, uncertainty, vitriol, as the planet and all of its inhabitants suffer.
Yes, it's nut. And, it is the ignorance and deluded thinking and reified beliefs that WILL keep us tied to nuts.
Dave and Les,
We are all ignorant of something, whether it is in science, math, economics, history, geography, the arts, other cultures, etc.
Yes, a lot of Trumpists know what is happening and don't care. They are greedheads, power seekers, and fascists.
And yes, there are lot impractical and antiquated laws and regulations.
Specific govt. regulations can always be debated and amended, as long as we have civil compromise. Bureaucrats can play power games and regulators can be a pain, but the regulation of commerce is in our Constitution, along with taxes and provision for the general welfare.
This is what the Right doesn't care for.
We can bet that at least half of Trump's cult have no idea what's in the Constitution apart from the 1st and 2nd Amendments. This is a volitional ignorance and a failure of citizenship.
Believing Trump's lies is willful ignorance. The vast willful ignorance of a fair election in 2020 is as astounding as it is disturbing.
And let's not forget the ignorance inherent in racism and white nationalism.
Belief systems such as religion, extremist politics, and nationalism require a level of ignorance to hold supporters to their "correct" belief system that refuses negotiation and compromise.
Where there is a willful certainty of beliefs, ignorance thrives.
Reform of our institutionalized anti-democratic power of the Senate, electoral college and corruptly appointed judiciary is essentially impossible. The founders failed to imagine the consequences of those poison pills for democracy in our Constitution. Of course, being wealthy white men, their power would be preserved.
So here we are. Under the threat of authoritarianism, without evolution of conscience and consciousness, we are locked into a system programmed for self-destruction.
I want to follow up on evolution of conscience and consciousness, or the lack thereof.
Low information, poorly educated, and semi-literate Americans are susceptible to Trump's lies and hate. They are not the winners in life, and find comfort in a leader who blames others for their situation.
This is willful ignorance. They embrace the hate and blame and lies because it makes them FEEL better and confirms false BELIEFS.
Then there are the authoritarian personalities who have no conscience at all. The racists and white nationalists also have no need for facts and information apart from their firmly held beliefs rooted in resentment and anger.
These pathetic failures in basic decency have no problem with Trump's vile character. They're not at all concerned for democracy. The millions of Americans who don't think a violent insurrection disqualifies Trump from a second term have no conscience to guide their thinking.
When it comes to resisting autocracy, fascism, and dictatorship, there is no "American exceptionalism". When fascism comes to America, not only will it be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross, it will be WELCOMED by almost half the voters.
This is a horror story and an avoidable tragedy unfolding. Trump stands ready to assume his longed for dictatorship. He will be granted immunity for crimes committed in office and unprecedented power by his corrupt red hats on the Supreme Court.
He has been given the power to order the DOJ to launch sham investigations of opponents and elections. Any decent, informed, and patriotic American should be terrified at this scenario.
Not only CAN it happen here, it WILL happen here, if Trump and his fellow traitors win or steal this election.
It's a good time to be old. The worst is yet to come if Trump isn't defeated, repudiated, and punished for his crimes.
The Biden/ Harris supporters believe and support abortion up to and after birth. Do you ACTUALLY believe this nonsense is appropriate because it is NOT!
Peter,
i absolutely agree with you that anyone who regurgitates the hate-filled lie that, "The Biden/ Harris supporters believe and support abortion up to and after birth", is spewing the worst kind of evil bullshit.
If you need a hobby, or have a bare minimum of curiosity, try finding ONE Democrat saying he supports "abortion after birth".
Good luck with that, and please get back to us.
Dave, let's put this in a larger global perspective, something the crazies will never understand.
For years America has stood firmly on the principal that "No one is above the law." This has been correctly understood in the context as meaning "if you can prove" the wrongdoing. Saying it, is not proof. Yelling it, is not proof. In a court of law, you need actual evidence.
That means sometimes the guilty will go free for lack of evidence. But it also helps to make sure the innocent are usually not found guilty. Is it perfect? Nope, but it's the best we've got in a "innocent until proven guilty" world. And I hope everyone would agree, it's way better than the Napoleonic era of "guilty until proven innocent."
The SCOTUS has, without any basis in the Constitution [I'll wait for anyone to show me the words] created a right, whole cloth, for our presidents to now act with impunity and immunity for political gain, personal gain and more.
The world is watching what was once the beacon of democracy crumble before their eyes.
Look south to our neighbor, Mexico. Their current president, Manuel Lopez Obrador is seeking a change in law, before his term runs out next month, regarding how Supreme Court judges there are appointed. Instead of appointments, he is asking the legislature to pass a law that makes SC judgeships "elected" rather than appointed. And he is proposing that the commission that oversees elections, currently independent and widely hailed as bringing Mexico real democracy, also be elected as opposed to appointed.
This will mean the two most important government institutions in Mexico, will become partisan and potentially malleable with drug money, or political pressure.
Can the US speak into that situation? Not anymore. Because the recent SCOTUS case has undermined our ability to defend democracy on the international stage, even if it's our neighbor. In fact, when Ambassador Salazar voiced just "some concern", we were basically told to shut up and the official relationship between the countries paused.
Mexico is our biggest trading partner. The recent SCOTUS decision is harming our ability to help defend democracy on our door step.
What is amazing is that both Trump and Obrador of Mexico are two sides of the same coin. Trump stands to the right and Obrador to the left. But both, if we are to believe their statements, think a president, by virtue of his or her election, has, or should have the right to do whatever they want, because of their election.
This was never true of course, but our system was always built on honor and a belief that our president would always put country above personal gain or politics.
Apparently that’s no longer true here, and we are literally now exporting that belief to other countries.
It’s a mess…
Dave,
Our electoral college has made a mockery of so-called American "democracy" and may well result in its destruction.
I'm not sure Obrador and Trump are two sides of the same coin. Trump is a fascist who tried to violently overturn our election. Trump and his party stole a Supreme Court seat and forced another through during an election.
The consequences of this corrupt and partisan Court are horrifying. Dictatorial presidential immunity and judicial permission to strong arm the DOJ into sham investigations of elections and opponents may as well mark the termination of our democratic republic.
I might be more sympathetic to democratically electing judges with term limits and an enforceable code of ethics.
I think it's far more democratic than allowing a criminal who lost the popular vote to fill the bench with fellow authoritarians.
And I also think Obrador is only proposing the judicial reform, not mandating it. If he resorts to violence to stay in power, then I'll agree he and Trump are two sides of the same coin.
I have no more words for the idiocy, deceitfullness, and yes, stupidity of the "reds" on the scotus.
Other than willful ignorance and loyalty to the weanlthy and crooks.
As it relates to AMLO, he only gets one term and his hand picked successor is next up. His party is short three votes from having the needed super majority to change the Constitution. Even the most rabid leftist in the country knows AMLO will be buying those three votes.
Since Mexico currently is essentially a one party country, with AMLO holding all the cards, he is effectively mandating these changes. Did Trump mandate the GOP abandon the border deal they negotiated? Not exactly, but yet, he did. Same as AMLO.
You sit with politicians and the public south of the border and they see AMLO as a left leaning Trump. And remember, after he lost his first try at the presidency, he maintained a shadow presidency the entire time in Mexico City. Complete with his own public inauguration.
For everyone angry about Justice Thomas and his largess, imagine that on steroids in a country where the narcos have almost unlimited funds to influence the vote and their preferred candidates.
Dave,
A aver to your deeper understanding of Mexico.
The US is certainly no role model for Mexico, as they see our own "narcos" at Big Pharma, Big Oil, Big Insurance, the NRA, Wall Street, religious extremists, and AIPAC influencing our elections, Congress, and courts.
Les,
SCOTUS red hats have earned many descriptors, but "Fascist Christian Nationalists" should cover it.
Imagine Trump reelected. We WILL see the most corrupt, dishonest, incompetent, deceitful, non compassionate, and ignorant administration in the entirety of US history.
And apparently it ain't just the trumptoid cultist supporting the filth that is DJT.
As we have seen thru the past 3-4 years Everything Kamala Harris touches, it immediately turns to Crap
Her attempting to capitalize on the MAGA (Make America Great Again), the Harris team tried to be cute and incorporate and copies every good idea that Donald Trunp comes up with , She may as well copy the Slogan “Make America Love Again” into her name. My Question, Is“Why?”
Why Kamala?
Kamala Harris is scared and is she keeps hiding from the press and public lest she be revealed as the empty-headed, inarticulate dunce she is in reality. At least Joe Biden could explain his lies and incoherent ramblings as the side effects of senility. So what is Kamala Harris’ excuse for the very same behavior?
The Progressive Communist Democrats are trying to give us another anti-America, anti-White, anti-Semitic Barack Obama puppet that hates American exceptionalism and Americans as he promotes terrorism and a nuclear Iran. Lets NOT Swallow their BS.
Opinionated and Right wonders:
"What The HELL Is Going On Here? Is this what we can expect with a KamalaHarris and Tim “COMMIE” Walz administration?
ANOTHER ILLEGAL ALIEN from Mexico, who was previously Deported 16 Times from the United States, has been sentenced to just one year in prison for causing a crash that KILLED 64-year-old Scott Miller in Conifer, Colorado."
Vehicular manslaughter isn't murder, sport. Did you know the trucking company that hired the driver was shut down because it FAILED to meet safety standards and regulations? You know, that stuff you Righties HATE.
Maga Maga Man,
It's odd that you can't cite one example of Kamala touched that turns to crap. And you still think she is "hiding" from the press? You missed her CNN interview, didn't you?
Sounds like you and Trump are AFRAID of her.
And only an "empty-headed, inarticulate dunce" would think she is a communist, and only a racist would think she is "anti-white".
Yes, you really are TERRIFIED of her. And she is way out of your league in intellect and decency. You suffer from what is called the Dunning Kruger effect, where idiots think they are really the smart ones.
Thanks for showing us what you are, though.
How about the incoherent ramblings of Trump? What does Hannibal Lector have to do with ANYTHING? How many different positions on abortion has he slithered into and out of just the past WEEK?
Trump employs page one from Hitler's playbook:
“All we have to do is define our opponent as being a communist or a socialist or somebody that’s gonna destroy our country.”
Of course it is yet another of his Big Lies.
This is GOSPEL to his cult of gullible and hateful true believers, as our MAGA commenters keep reminding us.
Watching the MAGAverse loonies twist themselves into pretzels in support of their Fuhrer wannabe is actually quite amusing. We're it not so pathetic seeing 45% of America attempting to destroy itself through the ignorant SOB Donald J. Trump.
Don't hold them up as heroes or icons, they are only politicians. Neither Harris and certainly not Trump will save the country from the mess it is in.
Anonymous,
You're right that neither Harris and certainly not Trump will save the country from the mess it is in. We have institutionalized corruption and a gross imbalance of democratic representation in favor of Republicans.
Biden is seen as a hero for preventing Trump's second term. He stepped down when he realized Kamala had a better chance of stopping Trump this year. He put the country above his personal ambitions. That may not be heroic, but he slowed our slide into white nationalist fascism. He deserves credit for that.
We need to address the reasons why the country is in a mess. Trump is THE primary reason for our current mess and imperiled democracy. The damage he's done will last beyond my lifetime. The border will stay a mess because HE ordered a bipartisan border bill to be KILLED. It is on him now.
The country is still in a mess because of division, racism, bigotry, inequality of opportunity, and hate. It is a mess because public education is being gutted. It is a mess because the economic elites call the shots. It's in a mess because Reagan attacked unions, killed the fairness doctrine, and enabled Rupert Murdoch's far Right propaganda media empire and radical right talk radio to dominate the airwaves.
It's in a mess because democracy is crippled by the anti-democratic electoral college, anti-democratic Senate, and an unaccountable, partisan, and corrupt Supreme Court. The country is in a mess because of "corporate personhood" and the legalized bribery of dark campaign financing.
No single person can fix this. It's probably far too late for that. But some can impede the downward trajectory into white nationalist fascism, and as far as I'm concerned that would be heroic enough.
Dave, as if to buttress my point, two important political leaders in Mexico are out this AM in the WAPO with their take on the very issue I raised above. Does the US have standing to criticize our neighbor to the south for undemocratic actions...
The US has no standing...
Dave,
The US may have once been a beacon of democracy when there were few others.
Other countries see only hypocrisy when we preach democracy and equal justice under law. Slavery and Jim Crow put the lie to it in the previous centuries, as did the anti-democratic electoral system, and the anti-democratic imbalance of the Senate.
And now the Rogue Supreme Court fabricated out of thin air the absurd "presidential immunity" demanded by Trump. No more is "Equal justice under law" appropriate to adorn the Supreme Court building.
Harris and Walz owe it to the American people to provide their opinions on Israel/Palestine and the war in Ukraine. As the government is funding those wars with our money. They need to address the terrible economy in this country as a pew survey says Americans top concern is the economy, at the bottom of those concerns are things like race and gender.
She stands there and laughs, and cackels and that is NOT good enough , she has giving ONLY one interview that was 15 minutes, of BS and she only did that because the people were complaining about it. .
And why do such a HUGE amount of Democratic voters oppose Israel in Gaza and they call the Israeli government a war criminal? They should know damn well that Israel was BRULTLY attacked and they took 250 hostages and murdered half of them !! Harris doesn’t even care about these voters apparently.
It is a disgrace. By now, she should’ve given dozens of interviews and done a number of podcasts. I want to see her sit for an interview for over an hour without a teleprompter in front of her. I want to hear her talk about Israel, Ukraine, and the economic situation in America without a Teleprompter. No matter what the fact that she has done no press conferences and one interview up until today is ridiculous.
She is a weak candidate and so is her Cuck vice president nominee.
Walz is weak and feminized. Calling for tampons in boys bathrooms. Not taking a stand against BLM. They brainwashed all of you people. Why don’t you talk about the fact that 1 million white people were enslaved in Africa.
Harris is “woke” which makes her a hypocrite. She’s the type of politician that either believes in or is for money/power saying in public that blacks have it worse than whites in 2024.
Harris does not deserve to be the Democrat nominee. She did horrible in the 2020 primaries.
Like Trump or not he constantly answered questions from the media, even if they were tough ones. He gives tons of interviews today has done numerous press conferences. What is wrong with Harris supporters?
Walz recently ignoring a question about israeli hostages in Gaza being killed is poor leadership. And we really haven’t heard Harris talk at all about the US support for the war in Israel/Palestine or support for the war and Ukraine. That is again poor leadership.
Democrats don’t care about it … they constantly rant about how bad Trump is, “Trumps a white supremacist, he’s a sexist”. There is zero substance on the part of Democrat supporters. It’s not good for the country.
Peter,
You are regurgitating lies again. The Stock Market hit record highs under Biden with very low unemployment. Since when is that a “terrible economy”? Or as your messiah says, America is a “failing country”.
While you were busy believing your malevolent mendacious messiah’s babbling non-answers like “Childcare is….childcare” and other lies at the New York Economic club of rich assholes and promising them MORE tax cuts. You suck up his hateful idiocy and lies about Kamala “turning black” and being a “communist” and using a “teleprompter and notes” for her interview.
But you BELIEVE all the lies and you completely ignored her interview. After all, you pay attention to ONLY pro-Trump propaganda.
Specifically, Harris talked in this interview about extending a $6,000 child tax credit to families for first year of a child’s life, and a $25,000 first-time homebuyer tax credit.
She talked about wanting to try to pass the John Lewis voting rights bill, which Republicans have blocked, and wanting to revive the border-security bill Biden drafted with conservative Republicans that Trump opposed, and the GOP-led House then killed.
She even said she’d consider appointing a Republican to her Cabinet.
“I believe it is important to build consensus, and it is important to find a common place of understanding of where we can actually solve problems,” Harris told Bash. But you don’t care. It’s easier to hate her and call her a commie, amirite?
She pointed out what she feels the administration has done well, from capping prescription drug costs for seniors and cutting child poverty, to an increase in manufacturing jobs and improving supply chains.
But thanks for sharing your messiah’s unholy gospel of hate and lies. You really are a true believer in his cult.
Peter, you must have ADHD. Kamala Harris has said repeatedly that Israel has a right to exist and defend itself. She has said, as has Biden, that America stands strong with Israel and our relationship is unbroken, unshakeable. We currently, under the Biden Admin, provide over $300 billion annually in aid to Israel. And since Oct 7 the US has made over 100 military aid transfers to Israel also. She has no bigger friend in the world. And both Biden and Harris have repeatedly affirmed this.
No presidential admin has been as generous with weapons and aid to Israel.
None.
As it regards the Palestinians, Harris and Biden both, have called for a two state solution and have decried the indiscriminate bombing of schools, hospitals and places where kids and children live. Both have called on Hamas to end terrorism, have called for a mutual cease fire and said Hamas must reform, denounce terrorism and publicly affirm the right of Israel to exist.
Both Harris and Biden have drawn fire from some in the Dem coalition for being too harsh towards Hamas, but they have stood firm.
If there are MAGA ppl who do not know these facts, or where Harris and Biden stand on Israel, it must be willful ignorance.
The same is true for Ukraine. Harris, Biden, the Dems and many members of the GOP do not believe Putin and Russia should be able to invade a sovereign democracy, take territory and annex it. You yourself may, but America believes, as we have since WW II that the actions of Russia right now, like the actions of Germany in the 1930's and 1940's, hurt the cause of world peace in general and in Europe specifically.
They both believe, as has America since WW II, that when the US stands strong with Europe, world peace is easier to keep, thus keeping financial markets stable around the globe. Something that is good for Americans like you and me.
I find it amazing that anyone with half a brain does not understand this, or is not even aware of these basic facts as they relate to the security of America and world peace.
Your statement that "we really haven’t heard Harris talk at all about the US support for the war in Israel/Palestine or support for the war and Ukraine" is provably false and shows you to not be a serious person as it relates to these issues.
Maybe you need to return to Lisa's Stench Trench, the home of her admitted "False Facts" where you can post your uninformed drivel without pushback.
But here, Dave and the rest of us like to deal in provable facts.
Dave,
Peter has a few issues hampering his views and judgments. Trump Derangement Syndrome and his cultish dependence on ONLY radical Right propaganda being his greatest reality impairments.
And because this requires a highly suppressed sense of curiosity, it's more than likely he won't even read, let alone respond to, our responses.
They truly don't want to learn what they don't want to know. They have a lock on the closed minded attitude.
Since he already has ALL the answers fed to him by his mendacious masters of his reality, good old Peter won't read this far. but we can easily predict his reaction to what the "Socialists" at Goldman Sachs recently said:
"We estimate that if Trump wins in a sweep or with divided government, the hit to growth from tariffs and tighter immigration policy would outweigh the positive fiscal impulse, resulting in a peak hit to GDP growth of -0.5pp in 2025H2 that abates in 2026."
Peter:
"FAKE NEWS! Trump knows more about tariffs than ALL the economists! In fact, Trump knows more about EVEYTHING than the rest of world combined!"
And Dave, clearly now the apocalypse is upon us. Big Dick Cheney, never a friend of the Dems or progressives, for VP, former WH Chief of Staff, fmr Sec Def, Fmr GOP Congressman, Fmr House GOP Conference leader has endorsed Kamala Harris for president.
I suppose Cheney is a RINO too?
Dave,
Hell, yes, the Cheney's are now "RINOs".
Any Republican who disagrees with Trump is a RINO, just any Democrat or citizen who disagrees with Trump is a commie.
It's the neo-Nazi playbook.
Trump, the American Fuhrer wannabe, is in serious effort to Rev up his moronic cultists to prepare for Insurrection Effort 2 should he lose in November. If it happens prepare for a situation that will make J6 2021 look like a tourist trip through the Capitol.
Trump is a sick and very stupid individual who plays the victim card at every possible opportunity to do so. Even and especially when it is pure BS.
Unfortunately there is obviously no shortage of American who prefer incompetence and division over patriotism, competency, and inclusion.
The war has taken shape and the intelligent know and see the dark and murky agenda of the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 and Trump's allegiance to its agenda. To take America back to 1905. Or before.
Authoritarianism tendencies exist in America today and they are very strong. And, they are owned and praised by the GOP, Trump, and the frightened Americans Trump plays to daily on a regular consistent basis. And, he has many propaganda networks like FOX, OAN, Newsmax, and others spreading his and the GOP agenda of misinformation and disinformation. A stinky pile of pure bullsh*t.
If it happens we will have deserved exactly what we get. And we can Call it >b>karma's natural cause and effect course correction through self imposed suffering.
Wake up America. Vote Harris/Walz and keep America moving forward to a even brighter and more compassionate and inclusive future. One standing on acceptance of all in our human family and holding loving kindness for all as the motto of the human race. Without exception.
Note: Christian Nationalism holds the exact opposite view. Christian Nationalists are opposed to the true and wholesome teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Who, like the Buddha 500 or so years before him pointed to the path of liberation and salvation.
Grasp and Strive less and accept more of what really is. Through Natural Unconfirned, Open, and Spacious Awareness.
PS: Perhaps the CN's who visit here, Dave, will have a response to my less than flattering remarks about them. :)
Les,
Oh, they've let me know their feelings about you. I won't publish their vile hate and personal attacks.
"Christian" Nationalism is about as Christian as National Socialism was socialism. They're both all about racism, hate, scapegoating, blame and WHITE/Aryan nationalism.
Anything the CN's have to say about me i simply view as the expected response to doing my job calling out their hate and ignorance.
There are many patriotic and decent conservatives like Liz Cheney, Adam Kinsinger, Chris Christie, Dick Cheney (on this issue only), Mitt Romney, and many other who recognize and speak the truth about Trump, Trumpublicanism, and their existential threat to our democratic republic.
Frankly the threat to our continued existence as a democratic republic is greater in 2024 than it was in 2020.
It is critically important no true American Patriot stay home on election day if they didn't vote by mail in ballot. This is a neck and neck race and those republicans and conservatives who can't and won't vote for Trump get put and vote Harris to preserve our democratic republic.
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