Saturday, March 9, 2024

Why No Answers?

 


My experiment in eliciting honest answers from the Trump Cult has shown us what we’ve known all along.

I fully understood no Trumpist would answer any questions or fill in my convenient forms to show their evidence that would “set me straight”. Hell, none of them could let me know when America was great before 2016!

This confirms they cannot answer questions...unless their cult tells them the answer. An anonymous Trumpist sent a link to the radical Right Federalist expressing their OPINION that Biden lied 30 times in his State of the Union Speech.

So, I checked it out. I’m never going to say Biden, or any politician, always tells the truth or gets his facts straight. But the propagandists at the Federalist go to absurd extremes, AKA their opinions and deceit, to falsely spin Biden as a liar.

One “lie” is Biden’s mispronunciation of a woman named Laken Riley as “Lincoln”. It wasn’t part of his speech, but a response to the disrespectful heckler Margie Greene. Biden offered his condolences to her family as any decent person would.

This is their “standard”.

And: Biden ludicrously contended that America has “never fully lived up to” the idea that “we are all created equal.

Tell that to Geoge Floyd’s family or any of the MILLIONS of drivers stopped by police for “driving while black”, and thousands of others beaten while in custody. Tell that to Black Americans who live in GOP gerrymandered districts that deprive them of a fair vote for representation. Tell that to Ruby Freeman and niece, bullied by Trump and Giuliani’s hateful racist LIES about them interfering in the election.

More examples:

1. Sending Money To Ukraine

Biden claimed that Republicans who oppose sending additional U.S. taxpayer dollars to Ukraine are doing so because they want America to “walk away from our leadership in the world.” That is false. Opponents of endlessly funding Ukraine’s war with Russia have regularly stated that American interests must come before those of other nations.

Only Trump and his MAGAts would think Putin and his war promotes American interests. Trump envies and reveres Putin. This is their ONLY reason for many Republicans to reverse their support for Ukraine.

2. Trump’s NATO Remarks

Biden claimed former President Trump told Vladimir Putin, “Do whatever the hell you want,” regarding Russia’s invasion of Eastern Europe. But that’s not accurate.

The former president’s remarks came during a recent South Carolina rally, during which Trump recounted a story from when he was president and speaking with a NATO member. Trump purportedly told this state that he would withhold U.S. support if they didn’t pay their minimum defense spending obligations.

“‘You didn’t pay? You’re delinquent?’” Trump recalled telling the unidentified NATO member. “‘No, I would not protect you. In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay. You gotta pay your bills.’”

In other words, Trump SAID IT. 

3. World Security And Ukraine

Biden claimed “the free world is at risk” if the U.S. doesn’t ship more American taxpayer dollars to Ukraine. There is literally no evidence to support this assertion.

Ukraine’s fledging democracy is at the front line of the free world. Putin is a war criminal and tyrant who has THREATENED to use nuclear weapons.

4. Jan. 6 Demonstrations

The president claimed that the Jan.6, 2021, demonstrations at the U.S. Capitol and concerns and lawsuits regarding the integrity of the 2020 election “posed the gravest threat to [American] democracy since the Civil War.”

How the hell is lying about winning and attempting to criminally STEAL the election by mob FORCE, in addition to orchestrating FRAUDULENT electors and bullying the DOJ and state officials to interfere on his behalf NOT a threat to democracy?

6. Kate Cox

Biden claimed the life of Kate Cox, a Texas woman who left the Lonestar State to obtain an abortion, was “at risk” during her pregnancy.

As Susan Bane wrote in these pages, Cox’s now-deceased unborn baby was diagnosed with Trisomy 18, “a condition associated with severe developmental delays.” These children “can sometimes thrive into their early twenties.” Cox was not at risk of dying from the diagnosis, however.

Bane is a “pro-life” activist who wants a young human to suffer a short life with terrible financial and emotional burdens on parents. She LIED about the child’s ability to “thrive into their early twenties”.

From the Cleveland Clinic:

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22172-edwards-syndrome

What can I expect if I have a child with trisomy 18?

There’s no cure for Edwards syndrome (trisomy 18). Almost all pregnancies end in miscarriage or stillbirth. Of those pregnancies surviving into the third trimester, nearly 40% of babies diagnosed with Edwards syndrome (trisomy 18) don’t survive during labor, and nearly one-third of the surviving babies deliver preterm.

The survival rate varies for babies born with Edwards syndrome (trisomy 18):

Between 60% and 75% survive to their first week.

Between 20% and 40% survive to their first month.

No more than 10% survive past their first year.

Children born with Edwards syndrome (trisomy 18) will need specialized care to address their unique symptoms immediately after they are born. The survival rate is low, especially if your child has delayed organ development or a congenital heart condition. Out of the 10% who survive past their first birthday, children go on to live fulfilling lives with significant support from their family and caretakers, as most never learn to walk or talk.

7. Covid Shots And Cancer

Biden falsely claimed the Covid jabs are “now being used to help beat cancer.”

From the National Cancer Institute:

https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2022/mrna-vaccines-to-treat-cancer

In fact, scientists at both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna drew on their experience developing mRNA cancer vaccines to create their coronavirus vaccines. Now, some investigators believe the success of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines could help accelerate clinical research on mRNA vaccines to treat cancer.

And on and on…

There are a number of more objective and far less partisan sources for fact-checking:

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/mar/08/biden-2024-state-of-the-union-address/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/08/fact-check-state-of-the-union/

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/factchecking-bidens-state-of-the-union/

The point is what they are TOLD and BELIEVE matter far more than facts. The FACTS are Trump lost and lied in 2020. And when facts are too complicated or unwelcome, they are not accepted. Myths, fantasies, conspiracies and lies are what offer them BELIEFS, meaning, comfort, and security.

Our radical right Trumpist commenters and all their fellow authoritarian-following personalities will always believe their authoritarian leaders. Their authoritarian nature allows, and welcomes, their brain circuits to be re-routed by the constant barrage of lies their leaders feed them.

All that matters to their Leader and his sycophantic media and mouthpieces is to inculcate a willingness in their targeted dupes to BELIEVE only what THEY and their propagandists tell them.

They tell them who to blame and hate, because they have been threatened by or deeply wronged by those others. And it FEELS good be identified with a group that is like-minded in paranoid beliefs of "persecution" and "victimhood".

They are bound in identity and purpose, in a struggle against those who they BELIEVE are a threat or danger to their Leader, themselves, and the BELIEFS they embrace as absolute truth. Their BELIEFS do not require facts or examination.

It FEELS like truth because they emotionally FEEL it. If a lie from the Leader makes them FEEL angry, they will BELIEVE it. No facts or reasoning are required. Emotional reactions from their authoritarian, over-active, and enlarged amygdala are easily triggered, and a vast industry exists to trigger these FEELINGS to deeply implant BELIEFS their leaders use as leverage for power.

The BELEIFS reinforced by FEELINGS have taken hold. Every word from their Leader is gospel, never to be questioned. 

Trump becomes their quasi-religious leader in their sacred cause to eliminate the "evil that threatens them" (the political opposition and anyone with religious/social/racial/cultural differences) and their leader, who they actually see as ONE of them. For that they love and practically worship him. HE alone stands between them and the darkness and evil that surrounds them.

The authoritarian-following personalities who have had their brain circuits re-routed by the constant barrage of lies their leaders feed them will not be able to process what I'm saying.

ONLY Trump and Republicans tell the truth. They FEEL it. They BELIEVE it.

They will regularly regurgitate their BELIEFS, but NEVER show verifiable information to support them. So, all they can do is lie, accuse, demean, deflect and project. "YOU'RE the liars!"

They FEEL they don’t owe us any answers. And why should they be answerable to “communist Trump-hating vermin”?  It would be like the Inquisition being obliged to answer Galileo , or an SS Officer being obligated to answer a Jew.

12 comments:

Les Carpenter said...

The MAGA belief system is supported by ignorance, blind faith in a demented narcissistic undividual, a party that instills hate and division, and a religion whose own founder (Jesus) would fail to recognize as his own today.

May the more intelligent and far wiser Americans, non republican and non MAGAt's, carry the day this coming November and win the trifecta. IE: Democratic President, Democratic Senate, and a Democratic House.

With a forward looking vision America can, and will, remain the beacon of hope and liberty for all freedom loving folks. But first, we need to rid ourselves of the scourge of Trump and his cult of MAGA.

Dave Dubya said...

Les,

I feel less than optimistic because even if Trump loses, his cult will remain.
IF he is convicted and incarcerated his cult would adopt a new Fuhrer, perhaps chosen by Trump, or otherwise revered as MAGA royalty.

The struggle against fascism never ends. The country needs to learn this.

I feel positive about the election for a few reasons.

1. Biden in the incumbent.
2. Women are motivated to keep their reproductive freedom.
3. Trump is to blame for the border deal being killed.
4. Trump is a criminal.

5. American University’s distinguished professor of history, Alan Lichtman accurately predicted the US presidential winner since Ronald Reagan in 1984. He said Biden is his pick this year.

His method is here:

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/the-americas/what-is-allan-lichtman-s-prediction-for-the-2024-us-presidential-election-1.1109868

Dave Dubya said...

To our loyal Trump supporters, insurrectionists, Proud Boys, neo-Confederates, neo-Nazis, and other pro-Putin Kremlin agents. (Looking at the House witch hunt by purveyors of Putin's propaganda from Alexander Smirnov.)

Feeling ready to own the libs?

You can tell me where I’m wrong in the post, or ask me questions about it, AFTER you first answer a question.

I welcome you to take a moment to answer at least one of four questions. (Or go for all of them if you really want to school me.)

~~~~

1. Do you agree with Trump that he has complete immunity for any crimes he committed as president? (Meaning Biden would also have such immunity.)

2. Do you agree with Trump's immigration policy of killing the bi-partisan bill that provided more officers and fentanyl detectors at the border?

3. Can you show us the verifiable evidence, that would stand under examination in a court of law, that proves Trump won the election?

Extra credit and kudos to anyone answering the bonus ESSAY question:

4. Before 2016, when was America as great as Trump would make it? (Specific years with explanation why.)
~~~~

I would be happy to consider your thoughtful responses. This means answering yes or no on the first three, with an explanation why.

Consider it the price of admission to this discussion.

Basic courtesy will be appreciated. This means:

No deflections, no personal digs, no links without content quotes or information, no accusations, and NO QUESTIONS until after your answers are published.

Thank you.

Shaw Kenawe said...

Well researched and rebutted, but trying to get through to MAGA cultists is impossible. Their brains don’t work like rational people’s brains.

Trump hosted Viktor Orban of Hungary at MaL this week. Do any of the MAGA cultists who come here and to my blog know anything about him and his anti-democratic , anti-LGBTQ+ rule in Hungary?

I doubt they’d bother to educate themselves on what has happened in Hungary. And yet their hero, the rapist and tax fraudster admires what Orban has done there.

Dave Dubya said...

Shaw,
"Their brains don’t work like rational people’s brains." Exactly.

A few links to articles and discussion on the subject:

Liberal vs. Conservative: A Neuroscientific Analysis with Gail Saltz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI-un8rHP14


Article from Scientific American in 2020:
https://scientificamerican.com/article/conservative-and-liberal-brains-might-have-some-real-differences/…


Political Orientations Are Correlated with Brain Structure in Young Adults
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3092984/


Conservatives and liberals DO think differently. Research shows different ways of solving everyday problems linked to political ideology

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2016/03/political-insight-republicans-democrats-conservatives-liberals-think-differently


Virginia Tech scientists find that biology influences political ideology
http://www.sciguru.org/newsitem/17790/virginia-tech-scientists-find-biology-influences-political-ideology

Dave Miller said...

Dave, the lack of answers to specific questions, both here from the MAGA street partisans and officialdom online and interviews should tell us why.

"Conservative" America either has no answers to serious policy questions, only wants to "own" us libs, or more likely, is still waiting for DJT to weigh in with what they are supposed to say.

Since at least Sarah Palin, extremists and non thinking conservatives have recoiled at tough questions like "What publications do you read" and "Other than FOX News, where do you get your information"?

This should be a relatively short comment string if you really do hold to your goal of answers.

Dave Dubya said...

Dave,
Yeah, the price of admission to the discussion is far too steep for them. Honesty, facts, and independent thinking aren't their values.

This topic of "Why No Answers" was inspired by your questions in the previous thread:

Marathon... are you speaking of former President Trump? The man who fired multiple campaign managers, who said he can do it better himself? Remember Lewandowski? Parscale? Manafort? Bannon?

Yep, all those guys, former campaign managers were fired by Trump.

Shall we add all the Chiefs of Staff he fired?

Ask yourself this... if Trump only hires the best people, as he claims, why is constantly firing people?

We don't see that in the Biden Admin. I wonder why?



(Shh. I think we found the secret to keeping them away.) ;-)

Dave Miller said...

Dave... answering questions is tough. Spewing opinion is not so much.

We live in an increasingly non either/or world. Less and less can questions be answered with a simple yes or no.

So rather than do the work of actually thinking through situations, people choose to just spout off, not work through issues and cling to some sort of perceived invulnerability when it comes to discussion.

Non answers are, sadly, just safer.

Dave Dubya said...

Yes, Dave.

Not to mention all the WORDS they would need to READ before answering. Why stoop to reading when every word spewed from their malevolent mendacious messiah is gospel?

Dave Dubya said...

The “Answers” given by Trump supporters have made my point.

“Dave Dubya is a SICK'O and needs to Vaporized…Remember that brutal mass shooting at a Philadelphia bus stop…BIDENOMICS… Special Counsel’s testimony on Biden…”

Funny how they demand a “marketplace of ideas” but can’t for the life them answer any of my questions. But we’ve known all along their “marketplace” is racism, hate, Trumpism and fascism. Or am I being redundant?

I accept their concessions. They keep proving they cannot think for themselves.

Dave Miller said...

"Answers"?

You mean you got a few? Judging from I see on WYD, these folks can barely communicate in standard English, let alone answer a thoughtful question. It's either that or they've got the biggest sausage fingers ever to grace a keyboard and it just goes off the rails from there.

I think it's the Sharron Angle syndrome. She's the former GOP Senate candidate from Nevada. When she was asked tough questions in her losing race against Harry Reid, she simply refused to answer those questions and criticized the press saying "We wanted them [the press] to ask the questions we want to answer so that they report the news the way we want it to be reported."

And that's how it is. If you can't provide an answer, deflect or criticize those "gotcha" questions. If you're wrong, deny it and talk about something else. And above all, always remember, up is down, until it isn't.

Dave Dubya said...

Dave,
Yes, all of their "answers" were deflections that had NOTHING to do with the questions.

Angle reminds me of Trump responding to Leslie Stahl. At Trump Tower shortly after the election, she asked him if he planned to continue bashing the media:

"Why are you doing this — you’re doing it over and over and it’s boring."

He said, “You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all, so when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you”.

They are at war with our First Amendment. Trump wants to shut down all news media that doesn't flatter him.