A federal appeals court decided Trump’s immunity claims would reject "the most fundamental check on executive power."
"We
cannot accept former President Trump’s claim that a President has unbounded
authority to commit crimes that would neutralize the most fundamental check on
executive power — the recognition and implementation of election results. Nor
can we sanction his apparent contention that the Executive has carte blanche to
violate the rights of individual citizens to vote and to have their votes
count."
In addition, they said that Trump's stance "would collapse our system of separated powers by placing the President beyond the reach of all three Branches."
"Presidential immunity against federal indictment would mean that, as to the President, the Congress could not legislate, the Executive could not prosecute and the Judiciary could not review.”
“Former President Trump’s alleged efforts to remain in power despite losing the 2020 election were, if proven, an unprecedented assault on the structure of our government. He allegedly injected himself into a process in which the President has no role — the counting and certifying of the Electoral College votes — thereby undermining constitutionally established procedures and the will of the Congress.”
The rationality, wisdom and common sense of this decision are as valid and sound as any judgement could be.
Therefore, I'm going to make a bold prediction that reflects this temporary surge of optimism.
The Supreme Court will NOT take up this inane case. It has been decided rationally, thoroughly, and UNANIMOUSLY by the Appeals Court
Even Chief Justice Roberts should have the sense that taking up this nonsense would be tantamount to open defiance of our rule of law and interference on behalf of Trump in the upcoming election.
The Court is already trying to shake off the stain of corruption and bribery. If he wants the Court to regain any semblance of integrity, Roberts will deny Trump's absurd assertion any further dignity in front of the Supreme Court. I think he would make this clear to Trump's appointed justices and the corrupt Clarence Thomas, whose wife may yet see criminal charges for HER ELECTION INTERFERENCE.
There may be a good chance even these partisan cronies would think twice about saying, "Wait a minute. I think Trump SHOULD be above the law for the rest of his life".
After
all, if that deranged notion is sound, then President Biden is free to legally
order Seal Team 6 to just take Trump out. And maybe a Justice or two as well.
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Hey Dave, It's not the the Maga Jew dudes comment. It's also the Progressive Old Black Joe, the guy who was "Sittin on Mammy's knee" who is looking sanctimonious while Roberts sports his usual shit eating grin
IamwhatIseem,
It would be helpful if you mentioned what you are talking about.
It would also be helpful if you'd discuss anything relevant to the post.
Imaginary Immunity, you mean like the kind Hunter Biden has?
Whose coke was it any dave?
Joe Biden just told the most outrageous lie of his entire presidency and that’s saying something because the list is LONG.
Here’s what he said:
“Everyday between now and November the American people are going to know that the only reason the border is not secure is Donald Trump and his MAGA Republican friends”
Biden claims "the only reason the border is not secure is Donald Trump and his MAGA Republican friends."
REMINDER: Biden spent his first 100 days reversing Trump-era border security, including halting the border wall, ending "Remain in Mexico," and lifting the border emergency. pic.twitter.com/M9UvSpe6PU
Anonymous has the classic MAGAt response:
"But HUNTER BIDEN!"
Nobody voted for him, did they? He was never in office, was he?
Any more deflections?
Don't whine like a crybaby when I ignore them.
Anonymous has the classic MAGAt response:
"But HUNTER BIDEN!"
Nobody voted for him, did they? He was never in office, was he?
Any more deflections?
Don't whine like a crybaby when I ignore them.
Clue: You're "REMINDER" of the past is deflection, and has NOTHING TO DO WITH Biden clearly saying, "between now and November".
Obviously your malevolent mendacious messiah doesn't want anything done about the border for at least a year. AFTER he FAILED to clean up the mess during his FOUR YEARS.
How is that for dealing with a "crisis"?
It's called obstruction and negligence. Trump and Putin are the ONLY ones that would benefit from sabotaging the bill. And you know it.
This clearly shows us where your loyalty lies. And it's NOT to the United States.
Question on the original topic:
Why do you think Trump is immune to criminal prosecution for life, like a dictator?
Please answer, or be ignored.
I hope you're right Dave. The decision was sound and built on solid logic and reason.
However, i do not for a moment think this scotus (i do not use caps because i do not respect this scotus based on several recent decisions) uses such sound judgement. Therefore i will believe your prediction when it actually occurs, or, they hear the case and rule against trump.
The House failed to impeach Secy. Mayorkus!
Stunning.
Cue the WYD trolls coming here to blame Hunter Biden and Barack Obama. LOL!
Les,
I hope I'm right to. I made this prediction at first reports of the decision. Since then, many pundits and legal analysts have expressed similar opinions. Yes, folks, you heard it here first. My prediction doesn't look so bold today.
Shaw,
It didn't take long for "FOREIGNER" to spew hate against you, along with his racist diatribe against brown people who do all the "crime".
Funny how he complains about such things happening in "OUR country". He must be talking about Russia, amirite?
Dave,
"Foreigner" is not allowed on my blog. He called me a "whore" because I didn't publish all of his blather.
Typical panty-waist Trumper whiner.
Imaginary history... Normally I would be sympathetic to someone having this kind of memory loss. But Joe ran for president like this and hid it from the American people and now he’s doing it again. It’s gotten so bad that he thinks he’s talking to dead people! No sympathy from me!
Anonymous,
And yet Biden beat Trump.
The report added:
“Unlike the evidence involving Mr. Biden, the allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if proven, would present serious aggravating factors. After being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite.”
Trump's similar weak grasp of reality has him either LYING or DELUSIONAL about a "stolen election", and saying at Mar-a-Lago, "I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi." Yes, the insurrection that HE incited.
Trump also "remembers" being named "Michigan man of the year". Never happened.
I'll take a confused doofus with professional staff over a lying traitor with criminal cronies any day.
Q: How many times did Donald Trump use the phrase "I don't recall" in the statement he gave to special counsel Robert Mueller in the Russia probe?
A: Over 30 times.
“He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013 - when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’),
Remember, it was Biden Attorney General Merrick Garland's decision to:
- charge Trump for lawfully having his presidential records.
- not charge Biden for unlawfully taking and using classified records.
The report said a jury would find Biden “a well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory”
It'd be "difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him -- by then a former president well into his eighties -- of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness"
He's too much of an invalid to prosecute but he can have the nuke codes and send our babies to war......
I don't know why Anonymous is so upset about the Biden docs case. Robert Hur inappropriately gave his OPINION on Biden. Yes, Robert Hur is a Republican, so we can understand he would inject his bias and opinion into the report.'
He has NO legal qualification to determine "a mental state of willfulness" in anybody. Compare that to the Mueller Report, where he made no such UNQUALIFIED UNPROFESSIONAL judgment about Trump's impaired memory when he "couldn't remember" over 30 times.
The bottom line is Biden returned the docs while Trump LIED about his and REFUSED to return them. Trump committed MULTIPLE felonies in his documents case. And we KNOW Trump liked to share secret intel with RUSSIA, as he did when he invited them into OUR OVAL OFFICE.
Putin probably has copies of whatever he wanted from Trump's Mar-a-Lago bathroom and storage room with a COPYING MACHINE NEXT TO THE BOXES.
Far more troubling than anything about Biden is the fact Trump LIED about a "stollen election", and CRIMINALLY tried to overturn it. Trump tried to CANCEL the votes of 81 MILLION Americans, and then LIED about have immunity for life, and promised to be a dictator.
If We Don't Wise Up as A REPUBLIC For Witch it Stands, One Nation Under God, and do it soon... We Will Lose Our Republic and Once it's Gone,...its Gone, Welcome to The United States of China,it's a Shame and True That You Don't Realize What You Had, Until it's Gone and ALL Your FREEDOMS That you Once Had, Are Gone as Well, Welcome to NEW Socialists COUNTRY That Was Once A Great, and Blessed Nation For Witch it Stands, One Nation Under God, and do it REAL SOON ... We Will Lose Our Republic and Once it's Gone,it WILL REALLY BE GONE , we will be saying. And trust me, in many instances we are already there!
Welcome to The United States of China, it's a Shame but True that Most People Just Don't Realize What WE'VE Had, Until it's Gone and ALL OUR FREEDOMS That we Once Had, Are Gone as Well, Welcome to NEW Socialists COUNTRY That Was Once A Great, and FREE Nation.
The choice is ours!
We can GO DOWN in FLAMES by keeping this Brainless Delusional Idiot by ignoring all the MESSES that he has causes and gotten us into, or vote for those who dare to disagree with you, but has MUCH BETTER policies, and who stands with those that LOVE this country and who wants to make her “Great AGAIN” .
You win some, you lose some..
.Or you can keep falling for this paranoid Senile Old Fool who don’t even know where he is or where he is going "we're at war with the DEVIL who wants to continue take this Country down to where the other 3rd world countries are. In the Toilet, so if that’s your dream, then go ahead and Vote for anther 4 years of HE
Hey anymouse, you've done a goddamn great job of defining EXACTLY what this democratic republic will look like if the orange hued human orangutan is ever in charge of the levers of power again.
Trump is pathetic excuse of a human form. A rapist. An insurrectionist. A filthy lying POS. A narcissist. A misogynist. A criminal. A racist. A xenophobe. And so many more disgusting traits.
If the sob should choke on his Big Mac and croak this nation, as well as the planet, would be better for it.
I allowed this latest delusional rant from Anonymous because he tells us what he is.
This poor soul is so "poorly educated" he's worried about the devil being anti-American,(and Pro-Putin?) Sounds like Trump.
Unlike women who actually LOST their reproductive RIGHTS, he couldn't cite any freedoms he lost in his delusional paranoid fantasies, but the fear is real. For they are ALL afraid. Afraid of anyone and anything that stands in the way of a Trump dictatorship.
He thinks surrendering our republic to a CRIMINAL aspiring dictator who is actively trying destroy our democracy is "God's Plan".
His Mendacious Malevolent Messiah tried to CANCEL 81 MILLION American votes! All to soothe his narcissistic overblown ego. The whiny brat is too emotionally immature to concede he lost, but admitted it privately.
OR Dear Leader is suffering from psychotic delusions that he "won". Take your pick. Neither are the characteristics a leader should have.
And for some reason he seems to be haunted by witches, in a "COUNTRY That Was Once A Great, and Blessed Nation For Witch it Stands, One Nation Under God". He even mentioned that witch TWICE!
I bet he has NO CLUE that the original Pledge of Allegiance was written by a SOCIALIST. LOL!
It's always fun to ask MAGAts, "When was the time America was great that you want to take us back to?"
Were we "one nation under God" during the Civil War? Certainly not, but a lot of treasonous MAGAts are calling for another civil war.
He hysterically thinks the US is like China. Never mind he's FREE to question and LIE about Biden. Try that free speech in China and say that about Xi. Is he really so stupid and paranoid to NOT know the difference?
All of this delusional ideation is fed to him by the Trump Cartel, of course.
He's one of the millions of Americans DUPED into BELIEVING every word from Trump is gospel. He is their new god, or at least prophet. Didn't he read about the rise of false prophets? Who fits this image more than Trump with his cult of true believers?
And they choose to hate whoever Trump hates, and to IGNORE the lessons and commandments from Jesus to LOVE others. Even your enemies.
Clearly they prefer Trump over Jesus.
And I hope he can clear his mind of witches someday. :-)
In the meantime, I invite him to enlighten us on the time he thinks America was great, with a cogent explanation of WHY he thinks so.
That's his price of admission if he wants to continue here.
Does Doofus Biden Even Understand Why He Wasn’t Charged With a Crime?
Does Anonymous understand why Trump was charged with crimes?
we're still waiting for him to enlighten us on the time he thinks America was great, with a cogent explanation of WHY he thinks so.
If he can't do that, what sense does "make America great again" even make?? None whatsoever.
They are CLUELESS how to answer this simple question. Want to know why?
The ONLY answers they ever have are what they are told by Trump and his slimy sycophantic media and cronies.
Let's test my theory...
So please answer the question, Anonymous.
Make America great as when? We'd love to know.
This question always leaves MAGAts blubbering nonsense or standing and staring vacantly like mute slack-jawed dupes.
Come on, Vern. You seem to think you're one of the smart ones. Show us your deep intellect and knowledge of American history. When was America as great as Trump would make it again?
Otherwise all you're doing is showing us who the real doofus is here, amirite?
Hey, Vern.
You forgot to let us know when America was great, and how Trump will take us back to those days. What's the matter? Cult got your tongue?
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Someone keeps proving he has a weaker memory than Biden. Of course it's more likely he's a lying criminal SOCIOPATH. But he's not as smart as he says he is. Why else would he be so TERRIFIED to show his grades?
Trump "misstated" (LIED) all of the following during his speech in Harrisburg, Pa:
1) Trump falsely said he won the Virgin Islands caucus “100%.”
2) Trump falsely said he won PA twice.
3) Trump falsely said Biden wants an open border.
4) Trump falsely said terrorists were taken into this country by the millions.
5) Trump falsely said we had the safest borders under his presidency.
6) Trump falsely said Biden will confiscate guns and take away the right to self-defense.
7) Trump falsely said no one died in Afghanistan during his presidency.
8) Trump falsely claims “nothing happens” to people who commit assault or murder.
9) Trump falsely said he worked with the FBI and said that Biden made recovering the documents very difficult.
10) Trump falsely claimed he was “covered by the Presidential Records Act” when he destroyed documents.
11) Trump falsely says Catholics are being persecuted.
12) Trump falsely said electric cars don’t work in cold weather.
13) Trump falsely said “We never had a country that was doing so well as it was during the Trump four years,” but he left office with fewer jobs than he entered.
14) Trump falsely claimed he got Mexico to send 28,000 soldiers to the border.
15) Trump falsely said Mexico took 32% of our car industry.
16) Trump falsely said everyone coming to the country is a man between 18 and 25.
17) Trump falsely says there were no terror attacks during his administration.
18) Trump falsely said Biden tried to ram through an “open border bill.”
19) Trump falsely said if the bill was passed unions would be out of business.
20) Trump falsely said Democrats cheat in elections.
21) Trump falsely said Democrats cheated in the 2020 election.
22) Trump falsely said President Biden can close the border and the bill is a hoax.
23) Trump falsely said we don’t have free speech.
24) Trump falsely said we don’t have a free and fair press.
25) Trump falsely said he did better in PA in 2020 than 2016.
26) Trump falsely said they’ll change the name of PA if he’s not elected.
27) Trump falsely said we’re a failing nation and a nation in decline.
28) Falsely said Biden is going to empower America’s enemies, unleash misery throughout your state and throughout our country, bedlam and chaos at home and abroad.
Peter,
1. Joe didn't post that here.
2. He's not here to respond to you.
3. Why not post your diatribe where he can see it?
4. It's inappropriate, rude, and cowardly of you to insult the guy when he's not here to respond.
5. Your comment is way off the topic of the original post, and ignores every word in this thread.
6. Address what is actually here and without personal attacks. Good faith discussion is welcome. Disagreement is welcome. Call Biden or any politician whatever you want, but personal name-calling gets deleted.
Trump Forces Judge to Grant Full Immunity After He Speaks Gibberish and Shakes Hands With the Air...
Wise choice Dave. Refusing to post abject ignorance. Reducing the spreading of online ignorance, hate, and delusional rants from the MAGAverse is a positive effort across the board. Bravo! Keep up the great community effort.
Les,
There's no point in letting their toxic effluent flood this place.
One of them tried to dump Trump's racist crony Stephen Miller's bile, whining about Biden not being arrested, and Trump being "entitled" to secret documents while out of office.
Hate is always their default. Trump's LIES are their reality.
I still welcome anyone who who makes an honest effort to disagree with me by citing my words and presenting verifiable evidence that disprove them.
I even provide them with a format to help them make their case against me. None have tried, just like none have been able to tell me what time Trump wants to take America back to, when is was great. And for that matter, why wasn't America great again after FOUR YEARS of Trump?
Crickets. But here's a template to make it easier for them.
“Dave, I have to say you are stating falsehoods by claiming (_____) and (_______). These facts and evidence (_____) and (____) suggest you are quite mistaken.”
"Trump wants to take America back to the years _____ to ____, when the US was truly great."
For some reason they get really shy when asked these questions. They no longer have all the answers. It's so sad they have to rely on Trump to define reality for them. But it's their choice to be in the cult.
Name the last liberal who you disagree with,,,speaking of answering questions why don't you answer them?
Doofus
Vern takes the coward's way out.
He can't even politely ask a question.
He has no answer so he just gets demanding and rude.
No wonder he worships an asshole and bully like Trump.
One dave has shown us, followers of Doofus are really thinned skinned.
An overwhelming majority of Americans think President Joe Biden is too old to serve another term, according to a new ABC News/Ipsos poll.
According to the poll, conducted using Ipsos’ Knowledge Panel, 86% of Americans think Biden, 81, is too old to serve another term as president.
Ever wonder why dave doesn't answer any questions? Is he a coward? Could it be due to his inability to face reality, his cult just won't allow it?
Wouldn't it be great if dave posted the "rude" question? He calls his cult leader Doofus then becomes upset when others do the same.
Respectfully yours, (lol)
Vern
Well, well. Vern finally accepts using his name. Will it last? Maybe he’s tired of typing all his anonymous garbage only to be deleted?
Polls are notoriously unreliable and lacking in context. The age issue has been focused ONLY on Biden until the recent poll Vern cited.
“Majority of Americans think both Biden and Trump are too old to serve second terms”
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-americans-think-both-biden-and-trump-are-too-old-serve-second-terms
Media obsession with age tilts more towards Biden, of course. Corporate media go out of their way to not even appear biased to the left, so the give the Right leeway. Such are most corporations.
Vern didn’t want to mention the same poll showed MOST Americans think BOTH Biden and Trump are too old for second terms. 59%
The poll does tell us how UNINFORMED almost half of the American people really are.
“In this study, about half of Americans (49%) say that Biden deserves a great deal or good amount of blame for Congress not passing legislation intended to decrease illegal border crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border. Similar shares blame Democrats in Congress (51%) and Republicans in Congress (53%) while slightly fewer blame Donald Trump (38%).”
Amazing, considering Trump CLAIMED CREDIT for obstructing the bill! “Blame it on me!” The fact that Trump brags about ordering the obstruction of the border bill stands in contrast to all the uninformed people who say it’s “Biden’s fault” it didn’t pass.
Trump proves again and again he doesn’t give a damn about the country or anyone but himself. Why else would he stop more border protection and immigration control and prefer NOTHING being done unless by HIM? (Vern won’t answer this question either. In fact he rarely answers questions, as proven above.)
The propaganda of the radical Right is quite effective in deception, as we know. Look at all the fascists, dupes and liars like Vern who insist Trump won in 2020. This tells us exactly who the cult really is. Smarter MAGAts with a modicum of decency KNOW Trump is a liar and responsible for his insurrection, but they lack the moral character to call him out, or they fear questioning Trump because their lives and families have been threatened. A number of Republicans have admitted this.
Why does Vern neglect both my original post the relevant poll question?
“(66%) say that Donald Trump should not have immunity from criminal prosecution for actions he took while president, coming after a recent federal appeals court came to the same conclusion.”
Could it because he WANTS a dictatorship that would destroy American democracy and hand Europe to Putin?
The vile criminal, insurrectionist and traitor said, “One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, Well, sir, if we don't pay and were attacked by Russia, will you protect us? You didn’t pay? I said no, I would not protect you (our NATO allies). In fact, I would encourage them (Russia) to do whatever the hell they want. You gotta pay!”
This is what Vern wants. Whatever the hell Putin wants. And Putin wants his puppet Trump to destroy America from within. So does Vern.
The Raving Idiot Dave Dubya has gotten to be as SHAMEFUL as his Lying trusted adviser Shaw Keewee. Meaning that he NOW DON'T POST ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT HE DISAGREES WITH.:.
Poor Debbie.
She has no concept of rational good faith discussion, so she reacts like a hysterical pre-teen.
She couldn't show how "Lying trusted adviser Shaw Keewee" has led me astray. She just FEELS that way. It would probably further enrage her to not be able to substantiate her accusations if I asked for an explanation. None expected, of course.
She's as full of hate as she is empty of reason. She doesn't appear to have the cranial capacity to even DISAGREE with me on one a single point I've made. She can't summon the words to explain how I am a "shameful raving idiot".
No, because without the ability to reason, she can only react with her delicate FEELINGS. She's more comfortable acting like an emotionally immature adolescent whining about being grounded.
She could have tried to be an adult about it, IF she had the ability THINK and seek information.
I even made it easy for people to disagree with me:
“Dave, I have to say you are stating falsehoods by claiming (_____) and (_______). These facts and evidence (_____) and (____) reasonably suggest you are quite mistaken.”
Why is this too complicated for them? I would suggest they just can't do it when their heads are stuffed up Trump's ass and their hearts are darkened with his evil lies and hate.
Now THAT is truly shameful. But it takes an open mind and compassionate heart to understand this. Trump HATES open minds and compassion. He has a cult that believes those are for sissies and commies.
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So, Debbie, why not take a crack at it. Can you set your emotions aside long enough to show facts and reasoning, or is that beyond your abilities?
I'd be happy to be shown the light, if only you could find a way out of your closed mind and the darkness of Trump's lies.
Feel free to set me straight. If you really had truth on your side, you would be happy to share it and wouldn't need to resort to insulting me.
Good luck, Debbie.
She feels you're a "raving idiot" "influenced by Shaw" because, without giving any reference specifics, she simply "knows". For her feeble obscured mind simply that is all it takes. Done deal.
Reminds us of one orange hued humam orangutan. An emotionally driven human form.
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