Here
we go again, dear Readers. We students of Modern American Con-servatism have
been rewarded with another round of enlightenment that only a con-servative can
offer. Return with me to the glories of yester-year, (Or was it yester-week?) as we once again ride the rocky
range of Con-servative ideology.
And
once again credit is due to Mr. Paine’s blog, whether the representative of
Con-servative ideology found a new voice (that just sounds a lot like our old
friend,) or whatever the other possibility may be.
The
reader must pardon our confusion that has resulted from Mr. Paine and the new
voice both posting as “Unknown”. Our new emissary of the far Right “Rex” laughs
at the suggestion of any mistaken identity.
Other mysteries are examined. Who's really playing the "race card"? And what exactly IS the "race card". There seem to be multiple differences of interpretation at stake.
At
any rate, someone deemed it important to bring Jefferson’s Guardian and yours
truly to heel.
For
mercy’s, and brevity’s, sake, I’ll just include my exchanges with “Rex”. Should
one have nothing better to do, or have further interest in the commentary, the extended discussion spans into
the comment threads of our two blogs.
Let’s
see how that went, shall we?
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Posted
as “Unknown”:
Amazing
how hard it is for some (most) leftists to simply stick to the facts. Trump’s
ban was for people from certain mainly Muslim countries that could not be vetted
that they were who they claimed. it was from most of the same nations that
Obama also had on a watch list, not that facts matter to you people. Do you
lefties care more about political correctness than protecting innocent
Americans? Never mind. We already know the answer. I guess little Davey would
say IOKIYA-flaming leftist.
As for Jefferson Davis’ Guardian, a Tesla model 3? That is a pretty expensive car. I don’t think the average person under your socialist utopia you seem to want would be able to buy one on these. Perhaps you expect to be one of the elite in the politburo and not be subjected to the same laws as the rest of us comrades? Think how many people you could help with the money saved if you bought a Ford Fiesta instead, after all, that is what you and Dave are all about, right? Helping the little guy with your benevolence? Oh, I forgot… That is government’s job, right?
Rashida is an ass and a raging anti-Semite. You leftists should be very proud! Her ignorance is only surpassed by Ocasio-Cortez. That stupid woman cannot even list the three branches of government. She should stick to cooking advice and dancing. These idiots are indictments of the failure of our education system and popular culture. After reading lots of Davey’s and Jeff Davis’ Guardian’s comments, they seem like they are probably old enough to know better though. I wouldn’t be surprised if they make up two of the hundred votes cast for McGovern.
The funny thing is that these leftist snowflakes think that they have captured the moral high ground. They insist on abortion on demand. Men pissing in public women’s restrooms. Legalized drugs for everyone. (as if their fried brains need any more drugs). Sanctuary cities for even criminal illegal aliens. And of course they call conservative greedy while wanting to tax us more to fund their socialism and entitlement plans. They have hate and disgust towards any truly biblical based morality and sexuality. These idiots insist that we stay out of their bedrooms but want us to pay for any consequences of what happens to them behind closed doors. And little Davey thinks conservatives are the hypocrites! HA!
You know, I voted for Trump and I do regret it. He has done some good things but he has also screwed too many other things up, like his trade war with China and pulling out of Syria. T. did warn me but I chose the lesser of evils. Trump’s rhetoric and truly stupid statements are simply not acceptable for a president. I want someone better than me in that office, not someone that has the demeanor of a leftist radical. It really doesn’t matter though, because even if Trump acted like a statesman and gentleman, you asshats on the left would still savage him. You are mad because he actually has done some good things to swing the country back to its conservative founding and reduced the size of your impotent gods found in the federal government.
As for Jefferson Davis’ Guardian, a Tesla model 3? That is a pretty expensive car. I don’t think the average person under your socialist utopia you seem to want would be able to buy one on these. Perhaps you expect to be one of the elite in the politburo and not be subjected to the same laws as the rest of us comrades? Think how many people you could help with the money saved if you bought a Ford Fiesta instead, after all, that is what you and Dave are all about, right? Helping the little guy with your benevolence? Oh, I forgot… That is government’s job, right?
Rashida is an ass and a raging anti-Semite. You leftists should be very proud! Her ignorance is only surpassed by Ocasio-Cortez. That stupid woman cannot even list the three branches of government. She should stick to cooking advice and dancing. These idiots are indictments of the failure of our education system and popular culture. After reading lots of Davey’s and Jeff Davis’ Guardian’s comments, they seem like they are probably old enough to know better though. I wouldn’t be surprised if they make up two of the hundred votes cast for McGovern.
The funny thing is that these leftist snowflakes think that they have captured the moral high ground. They insist on abortion on demand. Men pissing in public women’s restrooms. Legalized drugs for everyone. (as if their fried brains need any more drugs). Sanctuary cities for even criminal illegal aliens. And of course they call conservative greedy while wanting to tax us more to fund their socialism and entitlement plans. They have hate and disgust towards any truly biblical based morality and sexuality. These idiots insist that we stay out of their bedrooms but want us to pay for any consequences of what happens to them behind closed doors. And little Davey thinks conservatives are the hypocrites! HA!
You know, I voted for Trump and I do regret it. He has done some good things but he has also screwed too many other things up, like his trade war with China and pulling out of Syria. T. did warn me but I chose the lesser of evils. Trump’s rhetoric and truly stupid statements are simply not acceptable for a president. I want someone better than me in that office, not someone that has the demeanor of a leftist radical. It really doesn’t matter though, because even if Trump acted like a statesman and gentleman, you asshats on the left would still savage him. You are mad because he actually has done some good things to swing the country back to its conservative founding and reduced the size of your impotent gods found in the federal government.
Jeff
Davis applauds idiot-girl Cortez for wanting a 70% tax rate because it “will
balance the budget”. Bullshit! You leftists won’t cut any spending. On the
contrary, you will only spend more as the economy goes back into recession. The
only thing you all want to cut is funding for the wall as that might actually
keep out future Democrat voters. Tell me, if leftists don’t want any foreign
influence in our elections, why do they think it is okay for illegal aliens to
come here and vote?
Little Davey says conservatism is a religion as he further trashes real religion which the founders saw as vital to the founding and continuance of America, but fails to see his own hypocrisy as he builds idols to failed socialism and green polices. Who is truly they cult member here, little Davey?
Davey throws tantrums because we deduce what the left is thinking through their stupid actions and then tells us what we think and how we are authoritarians and supporting of evil. Funny. Perhaps him and Jeff Davis have shared a few too many bong hits. Some of their idiocy might be explainable if they truly are higher than the balls on a giraffe.
Hey, JTF, don’t bother with facts regarding Venezuela or anything else with these clowns. They ignore the fact that many leftwing pundits, including the New York Times, once pointed to the “success” of Venezuela’s socialism. Of course they then whine that no facts were presented. Must be the pot haze blocking their view.
Hey Richard Cranium (that’s dick-head for you) Davey! Quit with your race card. It might surprise you to know that there are millions of us conservatives that are people of color. Is that the only play you have left? I guess when you don’t have facts, this is what you resort to, right? Yeah Trump has said some stupid racist shit, but that doesn’t make conservatives racist. I won’t vote for him again, but I sure as hell won’t vote for the 1/1024 Indian princess either in 2020. Here’s a tip, Einstein; just because someone believes in capitalism, morality, and liberty (in other words conservatism) that doesn’t make him a racist. I’ll let you and Cheech get back to your fantasies now.
Rex
Little Davey says conservatism is a religion as he further trashes real religion which the founders saw as vital to the founding and continuance of America, but fails to see his own hypocrisy as he builds idols to failed socialism and green polices. Who is truly they cult member here, little Davey?
Davey throws tantrums because we deduce what the left is thinking through their stupid actions and then tells us what we think and how we are authoritarians and supporting of evil. Funny. Perhaps him and Jeff Davis have shared a few too many bong hits. Some of their idiocy might be explainable if they truly are higher than the balls on a giraffe.
Hey, JTF, don’t bother with facts regarding Venezuela or anything else with these clowns. They ignore the fact that many leftwing pundits, including the New York Times, once pointed to the “success” of Venezuela’s socialism. Of course they then whine that no facts were presented. Must be the pot haze blocking their view.
Hey Richard Cranium (that’s dick-head for you) Davey! Quit with your race card. It might surprise you to know that there are millions of us conservatives that are people of color. Is that the only play you have left? I guess when you don’t have facts, this is what you resort to, right? Yeah Trump has said some stupid racist shit, but that doesn’t make conservatives racist. I won’t vote for him again, but I sure as hell won’t vote for the 1/1024 Indian princess either in 2020. Here’s a tip, Einstein; just because someone believes in capitalism, morality, and liberty (in other words conservatism) that doesn’t make him a racist. I’ll let you and Cheech get back to your fantasies now.
Rex
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Dave
Dubya:
Oh,
my.... Looks like Rex got very agitated and angry at me.
“Little
Davey”. How cute! Except for my large hands, of course.
"Jefferson
Davis' Guardian"? Hookaay, that makes no sense. I really wouldn't consider
him one of the "very fine people" with the tiki-torches, though.
"Do you lefties care more about political correctness than protecting innocent
Americans? Never mind. We already know the answer."
Ah,
how refreshing to hear from an “expert” on my thinking. (Not one of my points
was quoted or disproven, but he did confirm they have all the answers.)
"Perhaps
you expect to be one of the elite in the politburo and not be subjected to the
same laws as the rest of us comrades?"
Hilarious
projection on behalf of Putin’s Puppet!
Good one!
”Helping
the little guy with your benevolence? Oh, I forgot… That is government’s job,
right?”
Right
you are. “Providing for the general welfare” is in the Constitution. But that
fact doesn’t count, amirite? Punishing and shaming the poor while denying them
healthcare is the “Right’s way”.
Along
with Nazis, the Klan and other white supremacists, he hates AOC and Rashida, of
course. No facts to support his accusations. Very con-servative. Would he dare
to read what I wrote on Con-servatism? Nah, that would take curiosity and
interest in what’s outside his cult bubble. Just hate the libs and brown
people. That’s enough for his ideology.
”I
wouldn’t be surprised if they make up two of the hundred votes cast for
McGovern.”
They
DO love their crooked Republican liars, don’t they? Why would we have voted for
the crooked Republican liar? McGovern was an honorable combat veteran.
Legalized
drugs? Say, wouldn’t that be called “liberty”? Or is that just hypocrisy and moral
relativism? Someone needs another drink and a cigar.
“..disgust
towards any truly biblical based morality and sexuality...”
Does
that include “do not leave alive anything that breathes”, owning slaves,
and multiple wives? Yes it does.
We’d
better listen to our moral superiors.
”Trump’s
rhetoric and truly stupid statements are simply not acceptable for a
president.”
Agreed!
Damn those nasty libs for not wanting a crude, stupid, cruel, and dishonest man
for president. They have no values or sense at all!
But
has he been doing “good things to swing the country back to its conservative
founding”?
I
guess that would make Trump a conservative then. Although rebelling against a
monarchy and empire was never considered a “conservative founding”. The
conservatives of the time were Royalists. Revolution to establish a democratic
representative republic by consent of the governed was, and still is, radical.
This is what progressives on the left want today. Real American values.
“...why
do they think it is okay for illegal aliens to come here and vote?”
Who
thinks that, and who SAYS they think that? Must be the same genius who says I
“trash real religion and build idols”. As Saint Ronnie said, “There you go
again”.
”...real
religion which the founders saw as vital to the founding and continuance of
America”
Except
for that darn Constitution again, demanding NO religious test for office. But
these facts don’t count, amirite?
Politicians, political parties, and a government deciding what
constitutes “Real religion” is just what the founders DIDN'T want.
”we
deduce what the left is thinking through their stupid actions”
Yeah.
It’s a long list, isn’t it? Unions are stupid. Anti-pollution laws are stupid.
Unemployment insurance is stupid. Public healthcare is stupid. Public education
is stupid. Climate science is stupid. Voting rights are stupid. Consent of the
governed is stupid. Stupid Declaration of Independence, amirite? Regulation of
commerce is stupid. Taxes are stupid. Providing for the general welfare is
stupid. Stupid Constitution, amirite?
Quick,
look! Venezuela!! Libs want the US to be Venezuela, ‘cause cons say so!
”Quit
with your race card.”
Yeah,
how dare that nasty Dave suggest Trump is a racist and the Klan, Nazis, and
other white supremacists all LOVE him, and hate liberals.
Shame
on me.
“Trump
has said some stupid racist shit, but that doesn’t make conservatives
racist.” Agreed. But it makes Trump a stupid racist, doesn’t it? Or
is that playing the “race card”? Many
conservatives are not racists, but they voted for one. Kudos to the
other morally grounded conservatives who didn’t vote for Trump.
If
Trump “has the demeanor of a leftist radical”, I would love an example for
comparison. His hateful, dishonest, and angry demeanor is certainly that of an authoritarian right wing radical.
”just
because someone believes in capitalism, morality, and liberty (in other words
conservatism) that doesn’t make him a racist.”
Who
said that? Gotta love the big Straw Man. Are we to believe because Trump says
stupid racist shit, that doesn’t make him a racist? I guess the same would
apply to all white supremacists who say stupid racist shit.
Obviously
this person did not read my “Con-servatism 101” post. He probably won’t,
because he already knows what I think.
11 comments:
Cannot stop laughing at you.
I will comment later. More important stuff to do at the moment.
In the meantime, here is a link to chew on and dispute.
https://borderfacts.com/
Or you could go to the government's own websites to read up on border security. Or you could have. If the President wasn't tantruming.
Say liberals! How many more illegals do you want to enter our country before you are happy. We already have 10-12 million, how many more do we need to make America great?
Do you lefties care more about political correctness than protecting innocent Americans?"
Well, do you? Why are you deflecting? Running away again, looks like it.
"Do you lefties care more about political correctness than protecting innocent Americans?" ~~ Just the Facts! (aka Majormajor, Timothy L. Trueblood V, and "Vern")
Place some context with your question, otherwise it's analogous to saying, "Do you rightwingers care more about demonizing professional athletes expressing their constitutional rights than protecting our environment from pollutants, toxins and carcinogens entering our air, waterways, and food sources?
See what I mean?
LOL
Mr. Paine (aka "Unknown" and lately on this blog, as "Rex" - woof! woof!) shut down the comment section tonight on his blog, Saving Common Sense.
Only "team members" may participate.
Happy days are here again. LOL
TB3,
Good point, but I don't think it will be noticed, for Rex is a very busy man with important stuff.
JG,
I feel I can safely convey a response on behalf of Just the Major, "No, I don't see what you mean".
Rex is really starting to troll now.
Right off the bat he stormed in and ranted: “Hey Jefferson Davis' Guardian, kiss my ass you pansy snowflake. Your mean girl bullying shit don't bother me. You prove the lack of moral high ground on the left nearly every time you type a comment anywhere.”
How many times have I politely requested that he refer to my post’s content for refutation? He decided to call me a dick-head instead.
Now he dumps an RNC link and scoots off.
Since he has more important stuff, allow me to show a sample of RNC brainwashing.
Here is a lie from that link:
The Democrats would rather risk the safety of hard-working Americans than work with President Trump to secure our nation’s borders. But in 2013, all 54 Senate Democrats, including Chuck Schumer, voted to pass legislation that provided $46 billion to build a physical barrier on the border.
Politifact reports:
A 2013 legislative package proposed $8 billion for border fencing — not $25 billion for a border wall. (And NOT $46 billion to build a physical barrier.)
More importantly, the border fencing Schumer backed in 2013 is different than how Trump has described his border wall.
But characterizing the 2013 legislation as a $25 billion deal to fund a "border wall" runs into factual hurdles.
That proposal, a comprehensive immigration plan Schumer sponsored and voted for, cleared the Senate in 2013. But the Republican-controlled House did not take up that bill after that.
The package included more than $46 billion for border security. The vast majority of that money ($30 billion) was for hiring more U.S. Border Patrol agents along the southern border. Around $8 billion would have gone toward building or repairing 700 miles of fencing (including some double-layer fencing) along the U.S.-Mexico border.
After inviting him to refute my discussion points, he flippantly dismissed any rational discussion.
”After reading your “Conservative 101”, I do know the fallacy of your thinking, Dave.”
My response: “Did you really? Then why won’t you cite my errors and provide evidence? You didn’t even get the title correct.”
It is clear he will only spin this in endless circles of con-servative tactics of accusations, deflection, distraction, distortion, name-calling, and other demeaning rhetoric.
My offer for civil discussion remains extended. However his trolling won’t be allowed any further, unless it is to be used as evidence of authoritarian con-servatism.
Speaking of trolls!
I’m amazed at the incredible coincidence of Just the Facts AND Majormajor visiting with only 12 minutes between their comments.
Like a loyal authoritarian follower and sidekick, he repeated “Rex’s” idiotic question, “Do you lefties care more about political correctness than protecting innocent Americans?”
He demands an answer. NOW! Note how his accusatory non-sense also echoes the RNC link. “The Democrats would rather risk the safety of hard-working Americans than work with President Trump to secure our nation’s borders.”
Apparently forcing TSA, corrections officers, Secret Service, air traffic controllers, the Coast Guard, and other federal safety and law enforcement officers to work without pay has no effect on the safety of Americans.
“Do you lefties care more about political correctness than protecting innocent Americans?”
The simple answer to that question is "No, we don't."
KanaW,
Thank you. You are correct, but cons will refuse or ignore that answer. It is their indoctrination and party line to dictate to their cult what we think.
It's a meaningless question anyway, like most of their hateful ignorant rhetoric.
Dave, can you please tell my why Democrats voted for better enforcement and wall construction in the past but refuse to do so now that Trump is president? What has changed, other than who sits in the oval office? If there is truly a relevant fact I am missing, please enlighten me. Otherwise, this smacks of nothing more than petty partisanship on behalf of Schumer, Pelosi, and the Democrats.
Rex,
I'm happy to answer your politely delivered question. Thank you.
The relevant facts that I see are these:
1. Both the House and Senate voted for a CR that included funding for border security.
2. Trump was about to sign it, then the voices of his far Right base called him a coward.
3. Trump proudly claims the shutdown as his own. Trump is the ONLY one who is refusing to compromise.
Your question was framed upon the correct premise that Dems voted for border security in the past. If "open borders" was their real goal, why would they care to fund security improvements?
As noted in Fact 1, there was border security funding in the bill Trump backed out of, like a coward, cowering to Ann Coulter and Limbaugh.
The fact remains the Dems are not refusing to approve border funding. They ARE refusing $50 billion for Trump's wall. It is an ill-defined and ever-changing demand. He is holding our government hostage to this demand. Real Americans are paying the consequences, not Mexico.
Most Americans agree on not giving Trump that money for his stupid campaign promise for his fantasy wall and BS about Mexico paying for it. Where's the pesos?
In fact, representatives of EVERY district bordering on Mexico don't want Trump to get his $50 billion wall.
One more fact to remember is Schumer offered $25 billion in border security, (Not his wall) in exchange for relenting on DACA. Remember when Trump said, "I love the Dreamers!"?
Trump REFUSED to compromise. Now he blames Democrats. This is that authoritarian personality thing I keep harping about.
I hope you find these facts helpful.
Facts. We liberals and moderates along with journalists, scientists and teachers use them all the time. ;-)
Those on the far Right generally choose their "alternative facts".
This is big problem reflected by the many futile attempts made to communicate and compromise with the Right.
I also believe communication is best accomplished through polite discourse by mutually accepted facts, evidence and definitions of terms.
I can dream, can't I?
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